I just think it is a bit odd, that it works for other companies and for Arendal not.
When buying a subwoofer or speakers you usually need cables too. The point I see here is that people often “upgrade” to Arendal and don’t start out with your speakers so that the entire cable setup is already done. Speaking for me: I needed cables when I got your subwoofers and would have ordered them directly from you if the price and quality is right.
Kristoffer,
thank you that you got into more detail.
I do understand the weight issue. But
1. Even the load-bearing capacity of one single M4x15 in chipboard is ~110kg. And yes, I admit, I do not know which direction, but it probably does not even matter that much. Also I do understand that Arendal wants to be in the safe zone, but with 4 screws having a possible load of 400+kg on a 7,3kg speaker?
2. It does not matter for the speaker/screws if you put them on a tilt mount. The force is the same as it would be on the wall.
3. As stated, I do not like the fact that you declare the mounting option “vesa 100 ready” and then a vesa 100 (which again, is a standard!) does not fit. Having “some mounting option” 100mm apart does not make it “vesa 100”.
I think it would help customers, if you would provide thread adapters with the monitors like
I believe and hope when you buy them in big numbers the costs would be marginal. For customers it’s quite a hassle to get them (in a decent price range).
About the terminal screws, you are missing the point. Of course there is more room when the speakers are not hanging directly at the wall. But you provide the speaker with a key hole as a mounting option! If customers want to use it and do not want to have the distance between speakers and the wall (or spending money on mounts, which they would not need, if the speaker wouldn’t have/cause this issue…) they have a problem with this terminal.
Lose the key hole, put the mounts in the box. Otherwise the speaker is not usable on the wall (at least if you take some decent cables). Or ask the customer at the checkout if the speaker is suppose to go on the wall, have the option there to buy the speaker & mount in a bundle….
The same with the banana plugs: No I do not unplug the speakers often. But just for the installation itself it is a big help. Have you tried to hold the speaker in one hand, fiddling the cable into the terminal and tighten the screw with the other hand having a short cable coming out of the wall? It is a PITA! My banana plugs fit where the cable would go, but they scratch on the speaker a little bit. As I said, if the terminal cut out would be a bit wider the use of normal banana plugs would be possible without any issue (except the protruding screws, which should be fixed no matter what).
Explaining to me how the situation is right now does not solve the problem. I am not saying your post is not kind, but it’s not a fix either.
Thanks Kristoffer for editing the title.
My questions have not been answered or my concerns adresssed to my statisfaction.
You say the mounts fit from your experience. Well my experience from three mounts is, that they don’t. And yes of course I understand your weight issue. But vesa 100 is supposed to hold 14kg (?), most of your speakers are under that weight. As I wrote earlier: The standard is different. I am not denying that there could be mounts out there which fit, but how can Arendal state the speakers use vesa 100, when they obviously don’t?! (And what bothers me more is how you just put it aside here…). I mean one pretty simple solution would be that you just ad M4/M6 adapter screws to your speakers and not just leave your customers alone with their problem.
Furthermore, you don’t adress the issue with the connection terminal at all. IMHO the terminal should be a bit further in and the cut out a little wider to be more usable and cause less issues.
Well, it is good (and you are lucky) that yours did fit.
But as I said, Arendal does not use the standard:
Vesa standard 75 x 75 or 100 x 100mm uses screws M4 x 10mm. The 1961 uses M6 screws (not M8 as I assumed earlier). It’s not just getting M6 screws, but extend the M5 hole to M7 in the mount as well.
It’s due to your amazon links, I believe. Still a not “post deleted” or just remove the links would have been nice.
Your mount for example is not close to what I am looking for: Picture says 0,5 inches, description 0,55 inches, which is 14mm already. As I said: I got one, promising 12mm or so and ended up with 16-18mm in reality as well. That is a lot more than the 10mm I have now or the 11mm from Arendal. And if I would have known that I basicly need the mounts due to the wiring issue, I would have ordered them right away as well.
Now Arendal charges as much shipping as a set costs and I actually only need 1,5 sets. Going with my mounts costs me 33 Euro, the Arendal would end up 83 Euros. I just don’t get why Arendal builds their speakers with vesa measurements, advertising it with “vesa” and then lots of other vesa mounts come with a different screw size….
Apperently a reply from Luis Vazquez just got deleted without any information about it… He asked for the type of mount I am using and it is a Mount Massive MNT 50, which acutally is pretty slim with 10mm to the wall. Another one, which promised 12mm or so was actually 16mm like a lot of other (cheaper) ones. I also used a Mahara Home mount for one of the Surrounds and had the same problem with the screw and hole size.
Hence, I do not believe it is just one unlucky mistake. Unfortunatly, the slim vesa wall mounts from Arendal have such unattractive shipping costs, that it is just not worth ordering them.
Oh and also, I cannot find an option to edit my first post. It would be nice, if an admin could change the 1723 to 1961. Thanks.
This …. is … embarrassing. But I am actually talking about the 1961 and NOT 1723.
I bought 2 generic mounts for them and both have the screw M6 vs M8 issue. Also my computer monitor vesa screws do not fit.
Also: Even with bare wire the screws overlap the speaker back a little bit and banana plugs do make everything a lot easier…
Really just a small and simple thing: Slate coasters with Arendal Logo for the homecinema/living room.
I only know the white 1961 and have the feeling the black probably would even reflect less than the 1723 satin.
I still have some reflections on the sides of the black front speakers when using my projector.
I used the option to order packing for speakers once and it was 60,- Euro incl. shipping for the boxes of two towers and one center speaker. To be fair, shipping to Finnland probably would have cost 100 Euro extra. Main Europe would not be that expensive (prob. 40 Euro) I don’t know why shipping differs so much, eventhough Finnland is in the EU.
And to be honest, I don’t know how Nubert does it. I expect that their boxes do not come from Germany either. I was just very happy to have that option and would have wished for it a few weeks ago, when I received three used Arendal speakers totaly demolished.
